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==General==
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* [[Continuity Snarl]]: How ''[[Bumblebee (film)|Bumblebee]]'' fits into this series. Despite everyone (including this very wiki) insisting that it's a [[Continuity Reboot]], the movie still has Bumblebee in his Bayformers design, he receives the injury that leaves him mute for the rest of the series, and it features Sector Seven (complete with a young Seymour Simmons). 
  
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* [[Creator's Pet]]: Bumblebee. Oh Primus, Bumblebee.
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* [[Fanon Discontinuity]]: Either ROTF to TLK never happened, or AOE to TLK is non-existent if one sees DOTM as the franchise's finale.
  
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* [[Fandom Rivalry]]: An intra-fandom rivalry. A lot of the more vocal fans of the live action films aren't necessarily fans of other elements of the franchise and seem to look down other aspects of it. And that's not even getting into how those fans reacted to ''Bumblebee'' and its [[Truer to the Text]] approach.
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* [[Fanon Discontinuity]]: Either [[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen|ROTF]] to [[Transformers: The Last Knight|TLK]] never happened, or [[Transformers: Age of Extinction|AOE]] to TLK is non-existent if one sees [[Transformers: Dark of the Moon|DOTM]] as the franchise's finale. And either all five Bay directed films happened or only ''Bumblebee'' happened.
 
* [[Germans Love David Hasselhoff]]: In sharp contrast to how the country of origin views the films, the film franchise is surprisingly popular outside the US such as Malaysia.
  
* [[Germans Love David Hasselhoff]]: In sharp contrast to how the country of origin views the films, the film franchise is surprisingly popular outside the US such as Malaysia.
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* [[Memetic Loser]]:
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** Well, not "Loser" weakness-wise, but almost every one of the Cybertronians' appearance is often viewed as being "unidentifiable".
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** The film series' version of Megatron became a punching bag for many fans who consider him hideous and take note of his [[Badass Decay|degraded role as a villain in the two sequels]]. A lot of fan art has been made depicting him getting beat up by other versions of Megatron (usually his Generation 1 counterpart) with comedic results.
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**[[The Scrappy|Sam Witwicky]] (and to an extent, his actor Shia LaBeouf) is often viewed as one of the worst human characters in the Transformers franchise that gives [[Transformers|Daniel Witwicky]] and [[Transformers Energon|Kicker Jones]] a run for their money. 
 
* [[No Problem With Licensed Games (Sugar Wiki)|No Problem With Licensed Games]]/[[The Problem with Licensed Games]]: The tie-in games zig-zag between these tropes, and in some cases [[Take a Third Option|subvert the two]].
  
* [[No Problem With Licensed Games (Sugar Wiki)|No Problem With Licensed Games]]/[[The Problem with Licensed Games]]: The tie-in games zig-zag between these tropes, and in some cases [[Take a Third Option|subvert the two]].
 
** In the former′s case, there′s the Nintendo DS versions of ''Transformers: The Game'' and ''Revenge of the Fallen'', along with the [[Sega]] [[Light Gun Game]]s ''Human Alliance'' and ''Shadows Rising''.
  
** In the former′s case, there′s the Nintendo DS versions of ''Transformers: The Game'' and ''Revenge of the Fallen'', along with the [[Sega]] [[Light Gun Game]]s ''Human Alliance'' and ''Shadows Rising''.
 
** As for the latter, there's ''Rise of the Dark Spark'', not to mention the PSP version of ''Transformers: The Game'' and ''Dark of the Moon: Stealth Force Edition'' for the Wii and the 3DS.
  
** As for the latter, there's ''Rise of the Dark Spark'', not to mention the PSP version of ''Transformers: The Game'' and ''Dark of the Moon: Stealth Force Edition'' for the Wii and the 3DS.
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** Subversive examples would include the console games for the first film, ''Revenge of the Fallen'', and ''Dark of the Moon'', the latter of which is considered to be a step down from the developers' previous and later ''Transformers'' games, ''[[Transformers: War for Cybertron|War for Cybertron]]'' and ''Fall of Cybertron'', respectively.
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** Subversive examples would include the console games for the first film, ''Revenge of the Fallen'', and ''Dark of the Moon'', the latter of which is considered to be a step down from the developers' previous and later ''Transformers'' games, ''[[Transformers: War for Cybertron|War for Cybertron]]'' and ''[[Transformers Fall of Cybertron|Fall of Cybertron]]'', respectively.
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* [[Older Than They Think]]:
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** Optimus as an [[Anti-Hero]]. In ''[[Transformers Armada]]'', Optimus felt that he'd become such a [[Blood Knight]] that he [[Villain Has a Point|agreed with Unicron]] that he was no longer worthy of being a Prime as a result and outright renounced the Matrix of Leadership. The difference however is that ''Armada'' Optimus actually acknowledged this shift in character and worked to correct it.
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** Though the films are often denounced as textbook examples of [[Human-Focused Adaptation]]s, that's technically inaccurate. [[The Transformers (animation)|The original cartoon]] and [[The Transformers (Comic Book)|comics]] had ''lots'' of human characters, most for just one adventure. The idea of a story with no humans and robot vs. robot action comes mainly from ''[[Beast Wars]]''.
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* [[The Scrappy]]:
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** Sam Witwicky, that's all.
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** How some fans (mainly in America) view this iteration of Optimus Prime over time and ever since the release of ''[[Bumblebee (film)|Bumblebee]]'': Though he had his own heroic moments, Many considered the character as a'' '''far-cry''''' of the original Generation 1 namesake, and because of his rather violent ways (due to his experiences for fighting for millions of years), he's commonly viewed as a less-than-approachable major [[Jerkass]] and an amoral [[Anti-Hero]] with very little personality. His actions in ''[[Transformers: Age of Extinction|Age of Extinction]] ''may have finally crossed the line as he killed one human (regardless if he's evil or not) at ''point-blank range''.
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** In some extent, Bumblebee is also this due to his status as the [[Creator's Pet]].
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==The 2007 Movie==
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* [[Harsher in Hindsight]]: After Mojo pees on his foot, Ironhide notes that it's gonna rust. [[Transformers: Dark of the Moon|Fast forward four years]]...
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* [[Memetic Loser]]:Let's just say that Jazz's reputation is torn in half.
   
 
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General

  • Creator's Pet: Bumblebee. Oh Primus, Bumblebee.
  • Fandom Rivalry: An intra-fandom rivalry. A lot of the more vocal fans of the live action films aren't necessarily fans of other elements of the franchise and seem to look down other aspects of it. And that's not even getting into how those fans reacted to Bumblebee and its Truer to the Text approach.
  • Fanon Discontinuity: Either ROTF to TLK never happened, or AOE to TLK is non-existent if one sees DOTM as the franchise's finale. And either all five Bay directed films happened or only Bumblebee happened.
  • Germans Love David Hasselhoff: In sharp contrast to how the country of origin views the films, the film franchise is surprisingly popular outside the US such as Malaysia.
  • Memetic Loser:
    • Well, not "Loser" weakness-wise, but almost every one of the Cybertronians' appearance is often viewed as being "unidentifiable".
    • The film series' version of Megatron became a punching bag for many fans who consider him hideous and take note of his degraded role as a villain in the two sequels. A lot of fan art has been made depicting him getting beat up by other versions of Megatron (usually his Generation 1 counterpart) with comedic results.
    • Sam Witwicky (and to an extent, his actor Shia LaBeouf) is often viewed as one of the worst human characters in the Transformers franchise that gives Daniel Witwicky and Kicker Jones a run for their money. 
  • No Problem With Licensed Games/The Problem with Licensed Games: The tie-in games zig-zag between these tropes, and in some cases subvert the two.
    • In the former′s case, there′s the Nintendo DS versions of Transformers: The Game and Revenge of the Fallen, along with the Sega Light Gun Games Human Alliance and Shadows Rising.
    • As for the latter, there's Rise of the Dark Spark, not to mention the PSP version of Transformers: The Game and Dark of the Moon: Stealth Force Edition for the Wii and the 3DS.
    • Subversive examples would include the console games for the first film, Revenge of the Fallen, and Dark of the Moon, the latter of which is considered to be a step down from the developers' previous and later Transformers games, War for Cybertron and Fall of Cybertron, respectively.
  • Older Than They Think:
    • Optimus as an Anti-Hero. In Transformers Armada, Optimus felt that he'd become such a Blood Knight that he agreed with Unicron that he was no longer worthy of being a Prime as a result and outright renounced the Matrix of Leadership. The difference however is that Armada Optimus actually acknowledged this shift in character and worked to correct it.
    • Though the films are often denounced as textbook examples of Human-Focused Adaptations, that's technically inaccurate. The original cartoon and comics had lots of human characters, most for just one adventure. The idea of a story with no humans and robot vs. robot action comes mainly from Beast Wars.
  • The Scrappy:
    • Sam Witwicky, that's all.
    • How some fans (mainly in America) view this iteration of Optimus Prime over time and ever since the release of Bumblebee: Though he had his own heroic moments, Many considered the character as a far-cry of the original Generation 1 namesake, and because of his rather violent ways (due to his experiences for fighting for millions of years), he's commonly viewed as a less-than-approachable major Jerkass and an amoral Anti-Hero with very little personality. His actions in Age of Extinction may have finally crossed the line as he killed one human (regardless if he's evil or not) at point-blank range.
    • In some extent, Bumblebee is also this due to his status as the Creator's Pet.

The 2007 Movie

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