Disney Animated Canon/WMG

The Friends on the Other Side/High Council WMG was becoming so AWESOME that it got it's own page that can be found here~

Everything's been moved into folders. Two movie crossovers are WMG's between two things, like two movies or "The Disney Animated Canon and Whatever, as long as it doesn't list every movie in the DAC. Same idea for the three movie crossovers. Massive Multiplayer Crossovers are more than three crossovers, pretty easy, huh? If the movie you want to WMG for doesn't have a folder, please feel free to make one. Currently the movies are in alphabetical order, and it would be nice if (to keep the page clean), that could continue. XD

The Rescue Rangers are inspired by the Rescue Aid Society.

Rodents, similar names and credos... a fan club? A renegade outpost? Perhaps Monty or Gadget's father were once members. It may even be possible that the Society no longer exists by the time.

Snow White's Prince and the Beast do have names.

We just don't know for sure what they are. They have to have names. The alternative defies common sense.

• According to computer trivia game the D show, the Beast's real name is Adam.
• I remember reading somewhere that Snow White's prince's name is Ferdinand.
• Lest we forget Professor Padraic Ratigan, from The Great Mouse Detective. His first name wasn't even MENTIONED in the film, though it was revealed in a non-Disney book.

Snow White's Prince Charming and Cinderella's Prince Charming are brothers.

Both "Prince Charmings" look very simmilar, except for different hair colors. They're around the same age. They are both named Charming because that is their last name. Snow White married Ferdinand Charming, and Cinderella married Chad Charming.

• And at Cinderella's wedding, the party banners at the reception probably read "Cindy + Chad."
• The films never identify either prince as being named "Charminng". Word of God says only the one from Cinderella is named that.

The Great Mouse Detective and The Rescuers take place in the same universe, which is also conveniently located in the Sherlock Holmes universe.

Sentient mice and other rodents who live alongside humans without them realizing it. There's no reason why they can't simply be the same universe in different time periods.

• That explains the short film Ben And Me, too!
  • Please, don't bother explaining "Ben And Me." Just shudder and try to forget.
• And maybe even Cinderella.
• Don't forget about Chip 'n Dale Rescue Rangers. And The Aristocats, which has a mouse character named Roquefort who dresses like Sherlock Holmes. And thus, by extension, any film that has cat characters, and probably dog characters too. Heck, let's just go with the first WMG on this page and save ourselves some time.

Chef Louie and Lumiere come from the same part of France.

Because it would be funny. Plus, I want to see a Fanfic where Belle teaches Ariel how to read/write in "human" english.

Timon was right

In The Princess and the Frog, Ray becomes a star when he dies. Thus stars in the Disney universe really are fireflies caught in that big bluish black thing.

King Triton is actually Poseidon.

In the time of Hercules, Poseidon was a member of Zeus' pantheon on Mount Olympus and an ally in the fight against Hades. At some point after that, he fell in love with the mortal mermaid Athena, and offered to make her a God, but she refused to leave her kingdom. Poseidon chose to make himself mortal, placing his power over the seas in the trident he used in The Little Mermaid. By the time Athena died, Poseidon/Triton had grown accustomed to living in the seas and stayed behind to raise his daughters. And yes, this means that Ariel and Hercules are cousins.

• Triton is in fact the name of Poseidon's son in Real Li-er, Real Mythology, who is also a god of the sea. In any case, Triton's trident is of course THE trident of Poseidon, and its powers are of divine origin. (It was probably forged by Hephaestus himself.) Nice family heirloom!
• Not to mention in the musical, it is specified that Triton and Ursula are children of Poseidon.

Disney Animated Canon takes place in the same universe, which is the original version of the Matrix

The first Matrix was supposed to be a fancy utopia, right? That is why most Disney Animated Canon Tastes Like Diabetes.

Disney's Hercules and Gargoyles take place in the same universe.

• When Elisa is put on trial by the New Olympians, a minotaur named Taurus mentions how his ancestor was beaten by a "human hero" with much distaste on the word "hero". In the animated series of Disney's Hercules, Hercules fights with a minotaur in one episode. This minotaur and Taurus were both voiced by Michael Dorn.

Dr. Facilier was the grandfather of Oscar Proud.

• The Friends on the Other Side weren't just satisfied with taking Facilier's soul - they decided to curse his descendants as well. Hence why Oscar is the Chew Toy in his own universe. Where Sunny fits into this is anyone's guess.

Lewis is the secret son of Mirage and Syndrome.

Inspired by a post in an forum at the Internet Movie Database. Lewis does not know who his mother is, but he's sure she had a good reason for dumping him at the orphanage. The reason is: she did it to keep him safe from his father, Syndrome. Think about it: both Lewis and Syndrome are geniuses, and then there's the hairdo...

• • Except Lewis' mother has a facial structure similar to Franny Robinson.
  • Still possible that Syndrome is the father, and his unnamed mom dropped him off there to protect him.

Scar is the Nemean lion

In other words, The Lion King takes place shortly before Hercules. Why else was Herc wearing Scar?

The deer in Snow White are Bambi's ancestors.

They are the first animated Disney deer, so why not?

Belle is an ancestor of Jane.

First off, the similarities between their dresses. Secondly, they both have similar looks. It's very possible that someone from Belle's family married into the (English) Porter family, or moved to England somewhere along the way.

• Professor Porter did mention an Aunt Isabelle.

Evangeline is Never Land.

Never Land is shown as a bright star with a slightly dimmer star to the lower-left. After Ray gets squished, a cloud moves away from Evangeline's star to show a slightly dimmer star to the lower-left.

Pocahontas did not really marry James Rolfe in Pocahontas II

A time loop made the plot of Pocahontas II moot and transplanted her and Kocoum into modern day Hawaii. Where they married and had two daughters, Nani and Lilo.

Sleeping Beauty and Cinderella are in the same continuity

The king in Cinderella bears a strong resemblance to king Hubert in Sleeping Beauty. The princes look rather alike as well (though so does Snow White's prince). It's not entirely clear when Cinderella takes place, but Sleeping Beauty is explicitly in the 14th century and Cinderella is clearly more modern than that. It's possible that the prince and king in Cinderella are descended from Hubert/Phillip's line in Sleeping Beauty, and happen to resemble their Great*N and Great*N+1 grandfathers respectively. So Cindy becomes distantly related to Aurora by marriage.

• If we assume Cindy's prince is descended from Aurora and Phillip, it might explain a few coincidental similarities between the stories. Apparently rebelliously wanting to marry for love instead of politics (and wanting grandchildren when you are older) runs in the family. And the similar taste in women. And if we then assume that Cinderella is her prince's Perfect Match and destined soulmate, it opens up a lot of interesting possibilities:
  • Why is Cinderella tormented by an evil woman who is voiced by Eleanor Audley? Because Lady Tremmaine is the reincarnation of Maleficent, and subconsciously wants revenge. So she seeks to make sure that the descendent of her enemies, Aurora and Phillip, never meets his soulmate Cinderella and makes her life a living hell. Lady Tremainne and Maleficent have very similar mannerisms as well, and both possess animal familars.
  • And why does Cinderella suddenly have a Fairy Godmother at this point in her life, when she was certainly miserable many times before? Why, because the Fairies are still looking after Aurora/Phillip's family, and want to ensure a happy ending. At first it looked like the prince would meet Cindy naturally at the ball, but when her dress was unfairly destroyed, supernatural intervention was required.

The Beast is Prince Charming's uncle

Prince Adam was the much-younger brother of the King in Cinderella (initially just the Crown Prince), of course). Since Adam was not the heir, when he came of age, he got set up with a castle and and some land in a rural part of France. A few years passed, and then Adam got cursed and became The Beast. 21 more years passes, and everyone assumes that Prince Adam is dead. Then Belle comes along and lifts the curse. They soon marry and are so caught up in each other and the Beast's new-found humanity that they don't even think of Adam's family for a while. When they finally let the King know that his brother is actually alive, his son has just married Cinderella. Prince Adam and Princess Belle will be frequent visitors to the palace and Belle and Cinderella will commiserate over being commoners thrust into royalty by marriage.

Evidence: Both Beauty and the Beast and Cinderella are set in 18th century France. Take a look at the dress styles between the two films. There are a few differences, but a LOT of similarities. The styles in Beauty and the Beast are a little older, but that is explained by Belle living in a "poor, provincial town" where the newest styles would take a long time to reach and Cinderella lives in Paris, where the latest fashion trends would begin. The styles in the Beast's castle are even older, because they're from 21 years ago, before the curse. If you look at Cinderella's father from the beginning of Cinderella, he's wearing clothes that are very similar to the Beast's ballroom look. The Beast being a younger son makes sense because otherwise him being cursed would create a national crisis.

Mulan and Cinderella wore the same jade bead necklace.

It would be a tad complicated to explain how it went from the Fa family to the Tremaines...

The reason Belle is seen in "The Hunchback of Notre Dame" is because Belle is reading "The Hunchback of Notre Dame."

Yes, Belle and Quazimodo both live in France, but at very different times. Quazimodo is living in the late Middle Ages, while Belle is in the 1600s or 1700s. So how did Belle get from the Baroque French countryside to Medieval Paris? Her books. Belle is "really" in her own hometown, in her own time period, reading the classic book "The Hunchback of Notre Dame." Though magic, or her own imagination, Belle is literally "sucked into" the book, and sees herself walking through Medieval Paris.

Prince Philip, Beast and Eric are the same person: the immortal reincarnation of King Arthur.

We first see Prince Philip as a young boy, betrothed to Princess Aurora. Their fathers are Kings. Although unnamed in the film, obviously Stephen (Philip's father) is King of England and Hubert (Aurora's father) is King of France. Philip and Aurora marry after Philip kills Maleficent and are happy for many years. Unfortunately Philip is ageless and outlives Aurora. Grief-stricken, he moves to his family's old castle in France and becomes a cold-hearted, selfish jerk until the Enchantress (possibly one of the Three Good Faeries) turns him into the Beast to teach him a lesson. There he meets Belle, falls in love, changes back, and lives happily again until she, too, dies of old age. After that, he decides to move to the coast and enjoy the seafaring life. This is where he meets Ariel, who becomes human in order to be with him, and Eric forges an alliance with Triton and the Mer-People (powerful allies, indeed). The Prince then reveals his true identity as King Arthur, reclaims Excalibur (a.k.a. the Sword of Truth used to kill Maleficent) and reigns wisely and justly with Queen Ariel Happily Ever After.

• That's quite some plastic surgery for the Renaissance - not only facial structure, but skin color and eye color? Wow! Jossed by the opening monologue of Beauty and the Beast, where it specifies that the time limit for the Beast to fall in love is "his twenty-first year," often interpreted as his birthday.
• Also, you've got the fathers mixed up. Stefan is Aurora's father, and Hubert is Philip's.

The true villains of the Disney Animated Canon are the Heffalumps and Woozles, not Chernabog.

I have always interpreted the Heffalumps and Woozles as horrific Eldritch Abominations. They terrorize the Disney Animated Canon, possibly taking the form of all of the bizzarre Disney Acid Sequences. Chernabog is a mere servant of the Heffalumps and Woozles-the one of them that attacks the dimension we know as Real Life.

Every film in the Disney Animated Canon takes place in the same universe

Well, this explains how Stitch could appear together with all the other characters.

• Kingdom Hearts. Duh.
  • Nah, that's an Alternate Universe of the DAC universe.
• What about House of Mouse?
  • It's an Inn Between the Worlds.
  • Isn't it obvious? That takes place in Toon Town in the year 2000!
    • But Toon Town has Looney Tunes toons as well- is the House of Mouse segregated or something?
      • I'm fairly sure the series says House of Mouse is a "club". If it's a private club, the owners could set whatever membership requirements they want (and thus determine who may eat and watch cartoons there and who may not).
• What with Enchanted, it follows from this that there exist various portals between that universe and ours.
  • That explains how The Genie knows about our pop culture.
  • And how the alley cats in The Aristocats know about psychedelic jazz and '60s slang despite living in 1910 Paris.
• And then there was also that Aladdin/Hercules crossover.
• We know about them because the portals were discovered during our early explorations of space. Von Braun told Disney how to access them when they made those space shows back in the 1950s. Man, this WMGing is fun.
  • It would logically follow that Disney and Co. set up several of these portals for ordinary people to enter — the theme parks. Not wanting to give his company secrets away, he made these portals imperfect or looped them every few minutes. To us, we see the new universes fold over their time and again, giving a repetitive ghost image of woman whacking pirates with brooms or a rhino goring adventurers. To them, we appear the same way, as a car of ghosts passing the spot time and again. Because the tampering is imperfect, some areas remain stagnant (such as the Jungle Cruise, relatively unchanged since it started) and others are in a constant state of flux (notably, Haunted Mansion, probably given ectoplasmic interference from that particular universe, and the Carousel of Progress, which uses the flux as its main attraction.). Some rides (such as monorails and trains) have flux capacitors on board, explaining how they can go from 1910 middle America, to 1870 western America and 1990s era cartoon land stations in one trip.
    • It seems more likely that they see us as either one train of people appearing several times throughout their life/the event, and then reappear later in their time only when we go through the next portal. That, or they don't see us as human at all, just caterpillar-like dense, blurry objects that appear occasionally due to the effect of seeing thousands of ghosts going through the same path at the same time for the same couple of their minutes. That is, thanks to every group passing them at the same time from their perspective, and either erasing all previous groups from the timeline or joining all other groups, past and present.

Every animated series and film takes place in a larger multiverse connected by the prime Disney world

The Disney Kingdom consists of all Disney theme parks, or rather, the one you happen to be visiting. (Mickey can't be two places at once, can he?) The Disney Kingdom acts as a conduit between the Disney World (or Disney World Prime) and Earth, although Disney World Prime is a parallel universe very like Earth.

• The Disney World consists of the main Disney characters featured in various television series. Characters and associated characters include Donald, Goody, Mickey, and Pluto; each have their own associates and locales, just as Spiderman tends to stick with Spiderman characters while the X-men stick with X-men characters.
• Alternate continuities have their own separate universe and are not restricted by older continuity. This includes an alternate Junglebook (Tale Spin), an alternate DuckTales (Quack Pack), an alternate Donald Duck where Donald doesn't abandon the idea of being a superhero (Paperinik, PKNA, and PK Reboot), a Carl Barks/Don Rosa-only version of Duckburg ignoring everything else, a dimension where each animated movie is left intact with no sequel or TV series (maybe), and a version where every sequel and TV series counts.
• There is a separate universe where the original animated movie never has a Crossover and never cameos anywhere else, and a universe where the characters do cross over. Taking a character from their home dimension creates a separate timeline where they were removed, leaving the original untouched.
• Live-action movies are part of the multiverse, including Song of the South, Pete's Dragon, and any other world where an animated character can interact with a live-action character.
• Live-action adaptations such as 101 Dalmatians have their own dimension but are unaware of their animated counterpart.
• In order for an animated movie character to appear alongside a Disney World character, it must hop dimensions to either Earth or the Disney World, making a crossover appearance such as Who Framed Roger Rabbit? or Kingdom Hearts, which are conduit dimensions where two or more universes can connect.
• Toon Town is a dimensional conduit; parts of it exist on Disney World Prime and on Earth in several theme parks, allowing interdimensional travel. It also allows travel from the Warner Bros. universe, Woody Woodpecker, and the Bonkers Earth and Bonkers toon world (which is likely its original world). It may include Toontown Online.
• It's unknown if these dimensions resemble Earth from being a variation of our Earth, or if our Earth is a variation of one or more of them.
• Also, Kim Possible, the Recess kids, Jake Long and The Proud Family all appeared on the TV series Lilo and Stitch.

Prince Charming is another member of Robert A. Heinlein's Howard Families.

He possesses the genetic makeup needed to remain young for hundreds, or possibly thousands of years, like Lazarus Long. There's a solid chance that he may just be Lazarus Long.

• Is Prince Charming a redhead? Lazarus is.
  • Ever hear of hair dye?
• The Charmings could just be descendants of one another. Ariel most likely married the great grandson (at least) of the Charming from Sleeping Beauty.
  • Sleeping Beauty's prince was named Philip. Snow White's might have been a Charming.
    • Philip Charming?
• Has it ever occurred to anybody that "Charming" is a very common name in the Disney Verse, ala Smith? Or that since they are all medieval Europe Monarchs, they're probably all related?
  • Word of God says only Cinderella's prince is Prince Charming. Aurora's is Philip and Ariel's is Eric. Snow White's prince is officially just The Prince (right down to his signature in the parks.) The Beast is unnamed. Some people like to think he's called Adam, but Word of God (as well as the parks) says he has never been named.
    • Fanon has it that Snow White prince's name is Ferdinand.
    • Also, none of the princes are ever actually identified in the movies as being named "Charming" (unless you count Snow White saying "everyone could see that the prince was charming", but she could've been using the adjective).

The feature films take place in the same universe as Disney's TV cartoons.

Particularly those from The Disney Afternoon Era. It's a little harder to figure the same in the case of most of the One Saturday Morning Era or Modern Era TV cartoons, due to their different art styles (with the possible exceptions of Recess and The Proud Family from the One Saturday Morning Era and Kim Possible and American Dragon Jake Long from the Modern Era, due to their crossovers with the Lilo and Stitch series). But what cements this theory is the mere fact that Captain Hook once had a swordfight with Don Karnage on Raw Toonage.

The Princess and The Frog fic listed below is true. All of it.

This fic. For those of you for whom this is tl;dr, this image.

• Most of those characters have unofficial or not-widely-known official names. The Queen from Sleeping Beauty is Leah, the Beast is Adam, the Prince from Snow White is Ferdinand, the Evil Queen is Grimhilde, Cinderella's Prince is literally named Charming.
  • Really? Cool~ The "artwork" is all based off of what the fic calls them, though... Um, curious, but where did you get that info? (Is genuinely curious).
    • Various Disney books and interviews, which I don't think I'll be able to compile. If you look up the names individually, I'm sure you'll be able to find their sources. The only one I distinctly remember is we get "Leah" from one of Sleeping Beauty's children's books. Adam and Charming are very official, Grimhilde I think is a fan nickname, and Ferdinand is the name I think they called him in development, but it's not the official name (they just say "The Prince").
      • Thank you~ That is so cool! XD
      • Sleeping Beauty's name is definitely not Leah. Watch the movie. Her name is Aurora. She also goes by Briar Rose.
        • Not Sleeping Beauty/Aurora/Briar Rose- her mother. ^_^

Chernabog operates like Chaos from Sailor Moon and most or all of the disney villains are just his incarnations

I just thought about this theory last night while reading about Chaos. Since Chernabog looks alot like Chaos AND is a god of darkness, I would assume that most or all of the Disney Villains are his incarnations, planning to rule the worlds in his name. The Horned King, Maleficent, Jafar, Ursula, Queen Grimhilde, Hades, and Oogie Boogie being examples.

During the Disney Princess sub-line

All of the male characters sit in the Snuggly Duckling playing cards, drinking, and wondering when the hell their movie is coming out.

• Those who have to make a token appearance in his wife's movie has to buy the next round before they leave.

Select characters in Disney/PIXAR subconsciously know judo.

Because why the heck not. Examples being:

• Simba and Nala, for the Tomoe Nage which gave Nala her edge when she was pinning Simba, and which Simba used to defeat Scar.
• Woody, for the O Goshi which he uses in the Black Friday Reel to throw Buzz out the window.

All Disney characters live in the same continuity, and they're all Canadian.

This film and others prove it.

Thomas O'Malley is Toulouse's biological father.

He is the same color. He has an obsession with being an alley cat. His eyes are green - a combination of Duchess' blue and O'Malley's yellow (yes, I know genetics doesn't work that way, but this is Disney). And finally, after Thomas jumps on the truck with Marie, he asks Duchess, "Have we met before?" This is taken as humorous and flirtatious, but it could have been serious.

• Or it still could've been flirtatious and Thomas could be trying to get back with her.

Edgar died when he arrived in Timbuktu.

This would lead to an unseen Disney Villain Death.

One of Thumper's sisters died during the winter.

In the 1942 original movie, Thumper had five sisters. But in Bambi II, he only has four. Given that rabbits are prime prey in the forest, it could be possible that one of Thumper's sisters was eaten, killed by Man, or starved during the winter.

This would probably explain Thumper's parents emphasizing family.

Gaston is the hunter who killed Bambi's mother

This is Word of Dante from someone currently at Disney.

But judging by the wildlife, Bambi clearly takes place in America, while "Beauty" is clearly in France. Although...perhaps "Beauty" is set in New France (aka Quebec) when it was still a French colony.

• This is impossible. There have never been such castles as the Beast's anywhere in Canada.
• There is evidence that Bambi is a European deer, not an American one.
• Gaston's residence is not necessarily relevant. For all we know, he could have just taken a vacation to wherever Bambi is set.
  • Hmm. Spending a year in the New World, clashing with brutal savages, tracking fearsome new beasts...it certainly sounds like the sort of thing that would appeal to Gaston.
• In the Felix Salton book, Bambi takes place along the Danube river

Deadpool is the hunter that killed Babmi's mother.

Disney owns Marvel now, and so this is a Retcon is just waiting to happen. Besides, she was in season and tasted good smoked or made into sausage.

Judge Doom is the hunter who killed Bambi's mother

Another theory offered by Disney.

• This was offered in the original script of Who Framed Roger Rabbit?: Roger asks Eddie if he knows which of the Toons killed his brother, and Eddie responds, "Probably the same guy who killed Bambi's mom." But it isn't canon because Eddie's comment never made it to the final release and it probably was a Deadpan Snarker line anyway.
• It takes place in a universe where all cartoons are portrayed by immortal actors, seemingly assuming that all cartoon characters are the slapstick kind. So wouldn't that kind of imply that Bambi isn't one of those kind of cartoons and, instead, really happened? I prefer the Gaston theory because of this. The idea of Bambi's mom being killed by something like a paintball gun, except (ironically) filled with paint thinner-like Dip is just... meh.
  • Well, he had to test the dip to something. Seeing he's a sadistic monster, killing a poor, cute fawn's mother sounds exatly like something he would do....

Judge Doom and Gaston were having a hunting contest on the day Bambi's mother was killed

Neither of them knows which of them fired the fatal shot that took her down. Considering it's BAMBI'S MOM, they've been accusing each other of the act ever since.

Elmer Fudd killed Bambi's mother

He was aiming for the wabbit, but missed.

The one who really killed Bambi's mother was a Time Lord.

Because It was all part of a elaborate Batman Gambit on his part.

M.Bison killed Bambi's mother.

Becuase for him it was Monday. and more proof.

Gaston is the Beast's bastard older half-brother and is conspiring to conceal the relation.

Think about it. Gaston is clearly a noted hotshot around the village. He walks around as if he owns it, spends his time hunting, drinking at the tavern, and wenching, and he's well-outfitted. He's the only character you see with a musket- or rather, any firearm apart from Cogsworth's pistol. He's an absolute spoiled brat like the Beast is, and he appears to be a bit older than human!Beast. When the Beast holds him over the rooftops, he seems to recognize Gaston. (It's usually attested to Belle not wanting the Beast to hurt anyone, but it could easily be interpreted as Beast recognizing Gaston too) As a hunter, he would have to know the woods around the village and castle. There is no way that he could not have stumbled upon the castle- and he was able to lead the villagers to it suspiciously easily. Therefore, he was likely concealing its existence. Why? He's somehow related to the Beast- probably an older bastard half-brother. Denied of his true rank and inheritance, he was sent off into some sort of exile while the Beast was lauded as the true heir until the enchantress bespelled him and the castle and the servants. Gaston hears about this and about the time limit, and decides to wait until the Beast was permanently trapped in his monstrous form before rallying his followers and seizing the castle and rule for himself. Maurice's 'ravings' about a castle inhabited by a Beast and Belle's tenure there (and her support of and obvious affection for the Beast) forces him to accelerate his plans while simultaneously giving him a chance to be the hero.

• I always thought that the Beast not hurting gaston was the latter's pleading-- probably something the Beast did when he was face to face with the Enchantress. He knows the pain of one's pleas falling on deaf ears, so he shows Gaston mercy. We all know how that turned out, though...

Only the objects with faces in Beauty and the Beast were humans.

Did you SEE "Be Our Guest"? Did you SEE "Human Again"? There is no way in hell that the castle had that many people in it. My guess is that the objects with faces were human and everything else was just brought to life. The movie never specified HOW enchanted the castle was.

Gaston is the ancestor of Captain Hammer from Dr. Horrible.

They're both macho jerks who enjoy persecuting the scientifically-minded, wear gloves over bare arms, and have fangirl trios following them around.

The glass slipper is...

...magic. That's why it wouldn't fit anyone else in the kingdom. It magically only fits Cinderella- no matter what.

The events in the second movie in the Cinderella verse never happened. Ever.

Well, as long as you look at the third movie as canon. (Spoilers (?) for all three movies).

1. Anastasia was in love with the baker, and with the baker at the end of C2.
2. Anastasia was not with the baker, nor was she in love with the baker in C3, ergo C2 is false.

• We know that the Baker scene in C2 cannot have happened in C3, because by then Lady Tremaine and Druzella had been punished to live as servants, and would not have had the control over Anastasia's life as they did in C2. Using all of this (and the fact that C3 is a bit better than C2), we can determine that C2 NEVER HAPPENED. (And there was MUCH rejoicing).
  • Jossed. In the end credits of Cinderella 3 you can see the baker with Anastasia. So it's still canon.
    • I'm not saying that Anastasia doesn't ever get with the Baker- I'm arguing that, if she does, it's a whole new seperate timeline in a world where Cinderella 2 doesn't exist. After all, Anastasia managed to redeem herself at the end, so it's possible that she would not be punished as severly- or maybe she was made to do "community service" by working in a certain bakery... ^_^

Lady Tremaine was tortured after the film

It is set in a time when torture was legal, right?

The Junior Woodchucks Guidebook from DuckTales is a proto Hitchhikers Guide

It seems to have an insane amount of information on very improbably ranges of subjects, from Martian technology to any given major celestial events in the past 3,000 years - with some funny exceptions (such as not having Dragon entries - 'because Dragons do not exist).

• • According to Don Rosa it's the Library of Alexandria in single-book form, which makes little sense considering how much modern-day knowledge it contains ...

The Pink Elephants represent Nazi Germany

The little elephant getting spirited away by the elephants represents the Jews, and the humanoid made of elephant heads is Hitler. also the camel turning into the snake is Italy.

• Dumbo was made before America entered World War II, so Disney would not have cared enough to bother with WWII symbolism. However, speaking of that scene...

Dumbo and Timothy died of alcohol poisoning after that extreme hallucination.

• I mean, if the alcohol was EXTREEEEME enough to cause that hallucination in the first place, it could happen. Also, Dumbo is able to fly afterward because he's an angel in Heaven. They get to be famous because it's exactly what they both seemed to want. Paradise.
  • And it becomes even weirder if you say that the crows (only appearing after the hallucination scene) are the souls of the gentlemen who set up the circus earlier in the film. They finally got worked to death in a literal sense.

The reason that Edward and Nancy from Enchanted fall in love so fast is because of The Tradition.

The Tradition is a force that causes people to live out their lives the way that stories tell them to. Giselle and Edward (and really all other Disney Pricessess) fall in love because of The Tradition. However, when Giselle leaves for the 'real world' The Tradition's hold loosens on her until she is no longer in love with Edward. The lingering after affects however, are what cause Giselle to cause the magic by singing effect. By the end of the movie, The Tradition is trying to get a 'Happily Ever After' from anybody, but Giselle is not complying. As a last resort The Tradition takes its hold on Edward (who has not been in the 'real world' as long as Giselle) and has him put the shoe on Nancy ala Cinderella. She doesn't really 'love' him, not at first, but she's willing to go with him because there is nothing left for her. Once they travel through the portel, however, Nancy and Edward fall in love because Edward put the shoe on Nancy's foot.

Chernabog is a free Jackass Genie

Think about it: His body type looks a lot like the Genie's. Assuming the former theory is taken into consideration, a lot of the deals he makes and the powers he grants are in line with what Genie could do. Assuming Disney doesn't want Satan running around their universe, he could be an earlier Genie who conned his way into freedom with significantly less noble intentions than Aladdin's Genie.

Chernabog is Kronos

In the beginning of Hercules, we saw Zeus seal away the Titans in an underground vault. But Zeus' father, the mad deity, was never mentioned. Zeus sealed the elemental Titans away in a secure place, but for his father, a Complete Monster if there ever was one, he created an even more secure prison, deep inside the underworld. Since then, Kronos has grown in power by collecting evil souls, evolving into an all-powerful God of evil for Disney - but still trapped within his son's prison.

[[WMG:Chernabog is a Gargoyles. Think about it. Horns? Check. Wings? Check. Glowing eyes? Check. Appears at night and becomes dormant during the day? Big check. Made of stone? He's made of a fucking MOUNTAIN.

The Mice in The Great Mouse Detective are the earliest form of the N.I.M.H project

They are extremely intelligent mice, wearing human-like clothing, and lacked the Bamboo Technology of the typical Mouse World settings. But most bizarrely, the likes of Basil, Dawson, and Rattigan are near-perfect replicas of identifiable human counterparts. Perhaps during the advances in chemistry and biology (of course, we're assuming a Gaslight Punk setting here), a test group of mice were given ways of having human-like intelligence and personalities and escaped, but many of the Mice and Rats were far more impressionable then others and unconsciously impressed themselves upon certain human figures. Others just adapted themselves from bits and pieces they picked up.

Dawson is an Unreliable Narrator. The case in The Great Mouse Detective didn't happen.

This case is merely a sham concocted by Dawson to cover up Basil's addiction to cocaine and subsequent raving hallucinations about his former mathematics teacher Professor Ratigan. Seriously, a plot to assassinate the queen with a steam-powered robot double built by a toy maker? Please.

In reality, the kidnapping was a much less sensational case which Basil solved very quickly. The movie ended sometime before the end of the scene where Basil is introduced, with the premature solution to Olivia's case omitted. The rest of the film (until the very end when Dawson is invited to live with Basil) is entirely imaginary.

See The Seven-Per-Cent Solution for more information.

On a related note:

In the entire scene in which he is introduced, Basil is under the influence of cocaine.

He bursts in like a loony, fires a gun into a pile of pillows, compares the bullet with an earlier bullet he had found, and finds that they... do not match. He then crashes into a depressive funk and plays the violin until Dawson's "touch-ups" of the story begin (See above WMG), where he is suddenly lucid. Obviously, he found the bullets and gun off the street and his addled mind linked them to his imaginary nemesis Professor Ratigan. He also probably hallucinated that wicked Villain Song.

Ratigan is a mouse/rat hybrid.

He lashes out whenever someone calls him a rat, which he looks like in the movie. However, in the "Basil of Baker Street" books, the professor was actually a mouse. By combining the book and the movie, one can infer that his mother was a mouse; his father, a rat. No wonder Padraic keeps himself alone.

lassicalMythology is accurate in the world of Hercules.

The Muses are just Unreliable Narrators. And they seem to be in a modern-day museum, so that explains how they picked up R&B gospel and all the current references. They just updated the story because that's what they do — they're basically the goddesses of storytelling, right? And they're only five of them because four wouldn't go along with it, so they kicked them out.

• That would explain why Athens looks like New York and why some characters use Yiddish slang and / or have New York accents - it's obviously a museum in New York.

Unless someone has made a deal with him, Hades is not allowed to directly affect (eg hurt/maim/kill) the living.

Hades is way too smart not to just shoot Hercules. Sure, he may have done the first attempt with the Hydra for laughs, but after that failed, why didn't Hades just go whack Hercules himself? He certainly has the power. Answer: Unless a person is dead or has made a deal with him, Hades is not allowed to directly hurt them. Hence, why he always has Pain and Panic, Megara, or a Monster of the Week acting in his place. This may have been a stipulation that was made when Zeus made Hades Lord of the Dead. And seeing how well Hades plays with others, it was probably a good idea.

The events of the Disney film were the result of Hercules setting right what once went wrong.

In relation to the theory above, Classical Mythology was indeed accurate, but not in the same timeline as the movie. The Hercules of the myths wanted to save his first and most loved wife (Megara) so he asked the Fates to reweave the Tapestry of Fate so that Zeus doesn't know that Hera (or any of the original female gods) is his sister, which saved a lot of grief all across Greece. (You would be pretty inclined to cheat on your wife too if she was your sister; the other gods followed his example.) Sort of like the fortunate equivalent of Disaster Dominoes or perhaps Matsuribayashi-hen.

If Hercules hadn't become mortal at the end of the movie, some bad shit would have gone down.

Hercules swore that he would trade himself for Meg at the climax of the film. However, as The Nostalgia Chick points out, Hercules doesn't keep his word. If he had gone on to be a Deity in the film, this could have had disastrous consequences. Yeah, let's go with that. However, he never specified to Hades when he would become "his". When Hercules refuses his God-hood, and becomes mortal, he has consigned himself to dying and entering the Underworld, thus by keeping his word. Eventually.

The real reason why Mickey and Minnie aren't married...

...is because Mickey has the hots for all the Princesses.

How did that happen? After visiting Disney World, seeing the Princess floats in the Main Street Parade all pass in order, seeing Mickey's float and hearing this quote (he says it with a flirty tone, too - also, paraphrasing): "Didja see all those princesses?" Then adds quickly, "No one like my Minnie though!"

Why'd he date Minnie for so long? He didn't want to have his fame crash and burn over bestiality charges.

• Mickey wants to marry a princess because of the perks of being royalty. True, he's made millions upon millions in merchandising alone; perhaps he became a money-hungry jerk over the years who wants a crown to be adorned upon his head. Also, what stopped Jessica from marrying Roger Rabbit (even if only he made her laugh) despite being different species?
  • The Princesses probably want in on the Mouse's money, too.
    • He IS royalty.

Mickey and Minnie ARE married.

They just keep up the youthful appearance of being boyfriend and girlfriend to appeal to each new generation.

What with all the various stories and places and time periods they've been in, it's possible to say that they married each other in each one, but we just never got to see it.

They were clearly married in Mickey's Christmas Carol and Kingdom Hearts.

Then after the happy ending, someone pressed the Reset Button, and poof! they're back to square one. Donald Duck and Pete are prime suspects here.

And besides, why would a mouse find a human princess attractive anyway?

Truth in Television: The previous voice actor to Mickey was married to the current voice actor of Minnie. They're the only people in the world who know what Mickey and Minnie sound like having sex.

The classic characters (Mickey, Minnie etc) are of a species capable of Regeneration

This explains why their appearances have changed over the decades.

Gastly is biologically similar to the classic characters

His appearance has changed very much over the years.

Mickey Mouse is a robot

Theres a similar theory for Sonic (Dr. Eggman is a Predacon!), so why not?

The reason the ancestors cannot awaken the Great Stone Dragon is because he already left with Mulan.

In "Mulan," the ancestors try to send the Great Stone Dragon, the family's most powerful guardian spirit, to retrieve Mulan before she can join the Imperial Army disguised as a man. Only when Mushu goes to wake up the Great Stone Dragon, the damn lazy beast won't wake up and the statue accidentally crumbles. Mulan had spent the night before huddled under the statue, and in the morning had left to join the Army. I am of the opinion that the Great Stone Dragon could not be awakened because he wasn't there; instead, he was invisibly watching over and guiding Mulan on her quest to protect her father.

In Mulan, Mushu was the spirit of the Great Stone Dragon.

He and the ancestors just got used to him being corporeal and hanging around the other spirits in a weakened state for so long that the original ancestors who knew him as the Great Stone Dragon had all gone to their rest. The more recent ones misunderstood, thinking he was the one to wake the great stone dragon instead of the awakened great stone dragon.

By then, Mushu had been treated like garbage for so long that he was thinking it was just his fantasy to be the Dragon.

Peter Pan doesn't want to grow up because he's afraid of death.

So, he runs off to Neverland, where he can never grow up. Captain Hook is old and close to death, so he seeks to kill Pan. The infamous crocodile? A symbol of death. Whenever Hook hears the ticking, he imagines his life ticking away as the reptile approaches.

• You got that from the movie Hook.
• Oh, sorry, I didn't think of that. Anyway, this probably applies to the original book and Disney film as well.
• The Fox version suggests that Peter thinks all grownups are greedy, cheerless, and self-absorbed, so he simply decides not to ever be one. Considering the only adults he's ever met are Capt. Hook and his (deceased) brother Patch, it's little wonder he's so prejudiced.

The Captain Hook portrayed in the movie was at some point the blood-thirsty killer he was in the original play.

As Kingdom Hearts: Birth by Sleep has shown, the Kingdom Hearts incarnation of Captain Hook has been in Neverland for at least eleven years now. At some point, Hook most likely was the threatening pirate that J. M. Barrie portrayed him as, but he's been fighting against Peter Pan for so long that it's taken a huge toll on him. Add that in with the threat of the crocodile ever looming in the water, and the result is Hook losing that intimidation and being reduced to a comic villain. Even his own crew sees this, which is why they most likely are planning a mutiny soon.

The Coachman from Pinocchio is Satan.

That face! Plus, he never gets punished for tempting and abducting boys and turning them into donkeys.

The Coachman is related to Circe.

Circe punished sailors for being greedy pigs by turning them into pigs. The Coachman punished boys for making jackasses of themselves by turning them into jackasses.

Pinocchio is a bad liar because he's a golem.

Pinocchio meets the definition of a wood Golem. Some golems are branded with a word for "truth", such as Hebrew אמת (emet). So deviating from the truth causes him great pain and stress, which sets off his Pinocchio Nose.

Figaro is a Funny Animal as an adult cat like Gideon is.

Figaro is a Nearly-Normal Animal as a kitten. He is Geppetto's cat in Pinocchio and Minnie Mouse's cat in his other appearances, but sleeps in a bed like a person would and walks on two legs sometimes, so there are a few Civilized Animal qualities in him. When he becomes an adult cat, he becomes a Funny Animal similar to the manner that Gideon is.

Monstro is a Leviathan melvilli.

Leviathan melvilli is a prehistoric whale. Monstro can't be a Sperm Whale because they only have teeth on the bottom jaw. The prehistric whale had teeth on the top and bottom jaws like Monstro.

Ray and Evangeline Were Together In Life

She met an untimely death somewhere along the line, leaving him alone. The bright star we know her as appeared in the sky, and he decided that it was in fact his lost love, treating it as such. He was right.

"The other side" Dr. Facilier refers to is analagous to hell

Which is why deceased Disney villains became his shadow minions.

In The Rescuers, Mouse World is a Utopia.

There seems to be an incredible amount of international cooperation among the mice of the Rescue Aid Society.

Also, consider that the Rescue Aid Society is their U.N. equivalent and it apparently has nothing better to do than covertly sort out problems in Human World. Doesn't that suggest that any and all problems in Mouse World must have already been taken care of?

It's all Republican/Conservative propaganda

Given that it was made during the 1970s, it's softening Britain up for Thatcherism and the US up for Reaganomics. Why else would taxation come in for such opprobrium, and not, say the general feudal system or serfdom as a whole?

The three fairies are based on the Neopagan Triple Goddess

• Merryweather is the Maiden - she's noticeably younger than the other two fairies, and more enthusiastic and energetic as a result, with her own ideas about her magic and what she should do with it. Her name also suggests tempestuousness - Merryweather.
• Fauna is the Mother - while she doesn't seem to have any children, she has a distinctly maternal manner with regards to the other two fairies and seems to be the calmest and most collected. Her name - 'Fauna' - is a word used to refer to animal life, but also comes from the Goddess of the earth: Mother Earth.
• Flora is the Crone - she seems to be the oldest of the three and is definitely the wisest. She has a slightly disagreeable manner, but is the most vital to the story - it's her who ultimately enchants Phillip's sword to kill Maleficient. The names of all three fairies together would seem to represent three different aspects of nature.

Sleeping Beauty and Prince Phillip actually met each other once upon a dream

...ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin.

Maleficent - Too Pimpin' To Be Dead

Seriously, though, the only thing left at the bottom of the ravine is her badass costume. There's no sign of her or a body. Presumably, she used what remained of her magic to poof into dust, breaking her spell of the thorns, and went to wander around in a non-material form to regenerate her energy for a shot at revenge in a sequel or live-action remake.

The Three Good Fairies were Also the Godmother of the Queen

Queen Leah, if you like. I was thinking how odd it is that she was graced with specific beauty traits her mother already has--Aurora is the spitting image of her mother, so what was the point of magically make them look alike? But maybe Queen Leah was originally gifted with those same traits, and the fairies magically passed them on.

The spinning wheel curse was a Xanatos Gambit

It's such a ridiculously specific curse, why wouldn't Maleficent make it something that would be a lot easier for Aurora to come in contact with? "Touches air on her 16th birthday" would be better. Obviously she runs her own yarn business and the people in the kingdom were cutting into her profits. She creates a curse to cause grief to the people she doesn't like while eliminating the competition.

Phillip totally would have missed if Flora hadn't enchanted the sword

And it would have been hilarious. Imagine the Oh Crap moment when the sword just sort of falls to the ground with a clunk.

Buzz Lightyear and the toy line he comes from is malfunctioning.

This was the original plotline for the third movie, before it got canned, but it makes the most sense given what we know of how the Buzz Lightyear toy line acts; every one of them believes themselves to be the characters they're based on, and have no recollection or notion of being a toy at all. None of the other, functioning toys we've seen in the first two movies are like this, not even the horrific monstrosities of Sid's; obviously, they all started out as "perfect", unflawed toys. It's possible that, if a toy line suffers from a design flaw that forces a recall (like what Buzz's line would've done in the original script), those flaws would affect the toys' perceptions of their world and themselves, warping their self-image and their personality unless the flaw can be corrected (if it can be corrected).

• Or, all franchise toys start out believing they are that fictional character, but eventually grow out of it. Woody's so old he's forgotten where he came from, and more generic toys don't have much backstory to bother with. Zurg supports this, and the Barbies are acting out the personality they've been given, it just doesn't come up very often because of the suspicious absence of franchise toys in Andy's room.
  • Rex asked what company Buzz was from and seemed to know a lot about the company that made him.
  • Which is actually pretty weird considering the references to Hasbro and Mattel toys in the two movies. One would think we'd see toys of Optimus Prime or Duke.

Woody is a legacy toy.

In the first movie, it's said that Woody and Andy go back a long time, and has been a favorite. In the second film, Woods is revealed to be a family treasure and from the '50's at least, and there was that boy in Woody's Roundup who looked almost exactly like Andy, perhaps that was Andy's dad who was the original owner of the doll we see in the films. Perhaps changing of ownership will erase a toy's memory after a while.

• • I always thought the boy in Woody's Roundup was actually all in Woody's mind while he was watching the episode. After all, he had already watched all the existing episodes of the show earlier in the movie and hadn't noticed this. I thought it was the moment where he realises what is at stake if he were to go to the Toy Museum, and he "hallucinated" Andy in the Roundup episode interacting with the marionette Woody - note his look of surprise!

Toy Story has two Wild Mass Guessing pages.

Word of God confirms this.

Jim Hawkins is Will and Elizabeth Turner's distant descendant

Not much evidence to suggest this, but both Jim and Will are fairly similar in background; generally poor, living in a small town that gets attacked by pirates searching for a Plot Coupon, and goes on a voyage with pure motivations (Will to save Elizabeth and Jim to find money to rebuild his mother's inn) but gets caught up in a web of piracy and treachery. Luckily for Jim, though, he managed to get himself out.

The entire crew of the Legacy were reincarnated from the crew of the Hispaniola.

The souls of those involved with the voyage of the Hispaniola have unwittingly been cursed to be reincarnated over many years and alternate universes since the events that took place in the novel, being forced to repeat the experience of in several different lifetimes "until the Sea Cook and Cabin Boy can exchange a last look with a true smile on their faces, feeling a fatherly and forgiving love."

It's not known why they have to repeat the adventure so many times; most likely punishment on the original Silver for his treachery, or Disproportionate Retribution on the original Jim for remembering his great adventure with such bitterness. The many different repetitions of this story have been told through the several adaptations of Treasure Island.

The curse was broken at the end of Treasure Planet; with that goodbye between Jim and Silver? Not surprising.

The plot of Treasure Planet takes place on Ancient Bajor.

That's why their starships use sails. Also, Morph is somehow related to the Founders.

Christopher Robin is not a child.

He is an adult in a mental hospital, heavily sedated and desperately trying to relive the brighter days of his childhood.

The Hundred Acre Wood is the collective unconscious of several mental patients.

Following the theory above, Christopher Robin and his toys are all mental projections of several insane individuals, all with many different problems, listed in detail here.

Tigger is an Eldritch Abomination hellbent on causing Rabbit (and everyone else) eternal grief

Come on, it's so obvious. He can bounce as high as he wants, breaking several laws of gravity and physics while he's at it; he is the the only character who knows he's in a cartoon/book/whatever; and he can talk to the reader/viewer directly. His main occupation in life is to barge in and cause chaos, especially around Rabbit, before bounding away cheerfully. Watch this episode. How do we know that he didn't set Rabbit up every time?

And the getting-sucked-down-the-plug thing was creepy.

Also, it's been mentioned several times that he can't read human writing, even if Christopher Robin, the most literate character in the Hundred Acre Wood, has written it. It's because he's got the speech but not the written words. This explains why, in the original books, he can't write his own name when even Pooh makes a decent attempt.

What's his motive? Well, perhaps he feeds off negative energy caused by disrupting harmony and order, which explains why he does not like honey. The Hundred-Acre-Wood is full of the stuff, and thus he's come down basically to keep fed. His appearance as a stuffed tiger and nature as the Big Friendly Dog of the gang could be a way of masking his true intentions, keeping him safe from harm while he builds strength for some unnamable purpose. We just haven't figured out what.

He could be from Chaosrealm, or he could be Lovecraftian in nature; that's not the point. If you chose to take this seriously, then the phrase "Everyone's scared of Tiggers" from Winnie The Pooh and The Blustery Day sounds instantly a lot more frightening.

• This theory is totally awesome. Also, the "Very Tigger Movie," or whatever it's called, has a new frightening implication — THERE ARE OTHER TIGGERS OUT THERE.
  • That is very interesting, indeed - Tigger claims to be "The Only One", but perhaps he was sent down to the physical realm as a baby, away from his many many hundreds of relatives. Therefore, he's grown up with no knowledge of his true family. When he does meet them, there's going to be hell to pay. Also, it doesn't help that he appears to have a lot of female cousins...
  • Also, notice how he's the one that first tells Pooh about Heffalumps and Woozles in the Winnie the Pooh and the Blustery Day segment of the original film, which causes Pooh to have a nightmare about them, and then they turn out to be real in the series and later films. Was Tigger deliberately trying to create a path into Hundred Acre Wood through for them through Pooh's dreams because he knew some of them weren't nice and that Pooh and company would be scared of them? Perhaps the heffalumps and woozles are Eldritch Abominations as well?

Winnie the Pooh is secretly an impossibly hideous demon-monster who feeds on children through the televison and seeks to cause everyone in the world misery For the Evulz.

• This is why they are wasting the next "traditional animation year" (since Disney is now going to make a movie in traditional animation once every two years) on another Winnie the Pooh movie instead of something new.
  • Don't believe me? Just ask Alan Alexander Milne, the original creator of the Winnie the Pooh stories, and ask his poor son Christopher Robin, who had to live with that name his whole life. Pooh took form in Milne's imagination from a possessed teddy bear his son owned. If you don't believe that teddy bears can be evil or possessed, watch Toy Story 3. Anyway, he forced her to write stories about him and sell them to Disney, therefore becoming her most notable work and simply overshadowing all her other work (He then devoured them, which is what gives him his great power). He doesn't eat "honey," by the way, the jars that he eats out of are usually labeled "hunny." "Hunny" is an acronym for "Humans are Under Nazism Now, Yay!!" The ingredients of this "hunny" are unknown but feared nonetheless. But beware! Now that you know this, he will be looking for you, as he does all of usssssfsgyeyuegiyuuguygbf
  • Is this a legitimate WMG, or just bitterness that Disney is trying to reboot one of their cash cows to the public?

Disney's animated canon will enter a second Dork Age where, instead of constantly cranking out Direct to Video sequels of dubious quality, they incessantly use their classic Animated Canon characters in Disney Junior preschool edutainment shows of equally dubious quality.

First Mickey Mouse Clubhouse, then My Friends Tigger And Pooh, then Jake and the Never Land Pirates, and now the upcoming 7D and Sofia the First... Sure John Lasseter may have temporarily saved Disney's loved characters by putting an end to the Direct to Video cheapquels... but at roughly the same time, the Disney execs noticed that little kids were way more interested in High School Musical and Hannah Montana than their classic characters. So they decided to put Mickey Mouse in a Playhouse Disney ripoff of Dora the Explorer to try and find a new audience for their mascot. It was popular with its intended audience, so they later did the same thing to Winnie the Pooh and Peter Pan. Undoubtedly, those are going to make a profit too, so they'll keep churning out the kiddie shows and we'll get insipid crap like Simba's Jungle Adventures, Baby Herkie's Adventures on Mount Olympus, Ariel's Mermaid School, Daisy the Littlest Wonderland Flower, The Black Cauldron Babies, well you get the picture. Prepare to have your childhoods smashed to smithereens. (Oh wait, they'll probably also add Max Goof to Mickey Mouse Clubhouse and stuff like that along the way.)

Stuff like Marvel, Pixar and The Muppets will probably be spared. Or will they?