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Being a spy, you have to get comfortable with the idea of people doing bad things for good reasons; doing good things for bad reasons. You do the best you can.
Michael, Burn Notice.

Sometimes, you do what needs doing, but that doesn't mean you have to like it.

The Hero does something wrong, or ambiguous, or involving some sacrifice. He feels tainted by it, though, usually, he had no choice in the matter. One way to humanize him and show that he is not just cold and heartless, thus making him more palatable to viewers. Sometimes the display of remorse might even avert a crossing of the Moral Event Horizon.

There is no need for him to resolve to act otherwise, or wish that he had acted otherwise, to bring this trope into play; merely wishing that it had not been necessary is enough. He can wish that he was not praised as much for it, in the Sub-Trope Be All My Sins Remembered.

He can even think that it is Dirty Business while he decides to do it, feeling stuck between a rock and a hard place. Often due to Conflicting Loyalty, he would feel it about either choice. When the hero does wish he had not done it, see My God, What Have I Done? and Tears of Remorse.

The better sort of Knight Templar or Well-Intentioned Extremist may also feel it, though generally overlapping with a willful blindness to the fact that it did not, in fact, have to be done. A somewhat nastier version may claim that his suffering, having to do these things, is the important thing, and completely ignore his victims' sufferings.

How wrong the act is depends on the Sliding Scale of Idealism Versus Cynicism, and the character. Those with Incorruptible Pure Pureness may feel it for even ambiguous acts, while an Anti-Hero or Anti-Villain may reserve it for serious wrongdoing.

May manifest as Bad Dreams, Beard of Sorrow, Drowning My Sorrows and the like, but does not need to be severe enough to reach that level.

What You Are in the Dark often proposes Dirty Business; The Hero will reject it.

See also Shoot the Dog, which often provokes this in the better characters -- and shows that the worse characters are worse by their lack of this.

This may cross over with Amoral Attorney.

Examples of Dirty Business include:


Anime and Manga

  • Naruto: Itachi Uchiha. By the age of 13 the child prodigy, he had chosen to become a double agent for Konohagakure's leaders, spying on his own parents and his clan to prevent them from mounting a coup. Then he had to massacre his entire clan, down to the last person (although he defied the order by sparing his kid brother) and afterwards flee the village as a wanted S-rank missing nin, just to cover up the involvement of the Village Elders in this. The irony? Itachi shed so much blood and took so much burden onto his shoulders because he wanted to spare the world from a bloody war.
  • Mahou Sensei Negima has Negi stressing out over whether helping to protect The Masquerade was the right thing to do. Everyone else tells him that what's done is done and he should stop worrying about it. Then it happens again during the magic world arc when it turns out that the Big Bad actually has a pretty good reason for what he's doing. One of the main themes of Negima is that you can't always be sure if you're doing the right thing and sometimes you just have to push forward anyway.
  • Weiss Kreuz: Dirty Business is essentially the raison d'etre for Weiss, a team of assassins who kill criminals that escape the justice of the law. All of the members of Weiss consider themselves unforgivable sinners, but do what they do in order to protect innocents.
  • Code Geass: Lelouch makes no bones about many of the extremes he goes to in his fight against Britannia.
  • In Saint Beast, this is how Zeus regards killing The Old Gods.

Comic Books

  • The Outsiders is a team that was founded by Batman specifically for the purpose of doing the dirty jobs that had to be done, bad publicity and all.
    • It was later refounded by Arsenal and Nightwing, and found itself fulfilling more or less the same purpose.
    • And then, when the bad publicity got to be too much, Batman swooped in and took control of the team again.
  • Watchmen: What Ozymandias does at the end. He claims that he makes himself feel the suffering of every victim, as if it lessens the evil of what he has done. His You Have Outlived Your Usefulness moment is played in much the same way. The necessity of tying up loose ends is debatable. Though it does raise a few questions when he lets the masked heroes who confronted him live instead
  • Squadron Supreme: Invoked by Tom Thumb in the limited series Supreme Power: Hyperion.
  • In Kingdom Come, it eventually turns out that Magog himself lives and breathes this trope (as is fitting as he is a Deconstruction of the Nineties Anti-Hero). He eventually has a mental breakdown during his reunion with Superman, haunted by the fact that the destruction of Kansas is his fault and that his adoring public and Superman himself just stood aside and let him slide that far.
  • This trope is played several times with the Senate Guard Sagoro Autem. He shoots his estranged brother to prevent him from murdering a corrupt Senator, but deeply regrets the necessity of doing so. In a strange inversion, he holds his partner and friend at gunpoint to prevent him from arresting Sagoro's son, who was an unintentional part of the assassination scheme, telling his partner that he had already alienated his wife and killed his brother for his duty, and he wasn't going to let it take his son, too.

Film

  • In Serenity, the Operative admits that what he does is evil, and that he is a horrible monster for doing these things. When he kills a man at the beginning of the movie, its quite evident from his face that he deeply regrets the action, and comforts the dying man by telling him he was a good person who did fine works for the better of all mankind.
  • The Battle of Algiers: This is largely how Colonel Mathieu views his job of putting down the Algerian insurgency. "Should we remain in Algeria? If you answer "yes," then you must accept all the necessary consequences." Despite the brutality of his methods, he's not entirely wrong.

Literature

  • In Harry Potter and The Deathly Hallows, Harry Potter has many problems with the concept of Greater Good and what must be done (and what he must do) for it, especially Dumbledore's take on the matter.
  • In Dorothy L. Sayers' Gaudy Night, Lord Peter Wimsey has Harriet help him draw out information from the senior university members. She tells him that she feels like Judas, he tells her it's part of the job, and she soldiers on.
  • The Stark family from George R. R. Martin's A Song of Ice and Fire have a tradition dating back to the days in which they were the Kings in the North; the head of the family, either the King or the incumbent Lord Stark, personally carries out every execution. Lord Eddard Stark executes a deserter from the Night's Watch at the beginning of book one. He explains why to one of his young sons afterwards.

 "The blood of the First Men still flows in the veins of the Starks, and we hold to the belief that the man who passes the sentence should swing the sword. If you would take a man's life, you owe it to him to look into his eyes and hear his final words. And if you cannot bear to do that, then perhaps the man does not deserve to die."

  • In Lois McMaster Bujold's The Vor Game, Miles Vorkosigan tells people -- even his friends -- so many lies and half-truths that he feels deeply relieved when he can tell Tung that he's trying to rescue Gregor, because that's a whole truth.
    • In Barrayar when Drou drops into a bit of a funk after she kills a man in her first real combat experience, Cordelia tells her to treasure her guilt, because society needs people who are capable of doing the necessary evil, without becoming evil themselves.
  • In Dan Abnett's Gaunt's Ghosts novel Traitor General, when a resistance member freaks out, Gaunt knocks him unconscious and carries him to safety. Landerson, another member, is surprised that being a commissar, he didn't kill him, and Gaunt talks of his duty to protect mankind, even the weak and frightened -- and feels a distaste for it. The truth was, he could not have left the body behind, and he might as well bring him alive, but he was saying that to manipulate Landerson.
    • In Blood Pact, Gaunt thinks that he's done a lot of dubious things in his day, but he particularly dislikes having let the prisoner "bleed out" the Blood Magic of the pursuing witch -- out of not only himself but also Wes Maggs.
  • In Sandy Mitchell's Ciaphas Cain novel For The Emperor, Cain and the soldiers under him must wipe out a company of PDF because any survivor could get out the word that they were escorting the tau ambassadors from the riots. Although the soldiers had fired on them, they were clearly not evilly motivated and they were obviously young. Cain finds himself disgusted by it, and has difficulty working out what to say to his troopers. He finally tells the sergeant to tell them that he appreciated what they did. The sergeant says he will, with obvious sympathy, and Cain realizes it was the right thing.
    • In Caves of Ice, Cain must order the destruction of a fallen guardsman's body - to carry it would slow them down too much, there's no time or tools to bury it, and leaving it where it lay would reveal their presence to the enemy. He notes no small amount of dismay on his part.
    • In the short story "Sector 13," he discovers a genestealer cult. At the end of the story, amid general celebration, he's trying (unsuccessfully) to avoid thinking about all the Imperial subjects and guardsmen who're being executed because, despite being loyal, they are infected and there's no way to save them.
  • In Graham McNeill's Warhammer 40000 Ultramarines novel Dead Sky Black Sun, when a renegade Space Marine persuades Uriel to leave behind some hideously tortured prisoners to their death, Uriel knows that a rescue would be pointless, and their death a mercy, but still feels guilty about leaving them to it.
    • Later, when reasoning with the Unfleshed, Uriel says he spoke with the Emperor, who sent him. A gross oversimplification, but the Unfleshed's childish minds could not grasp his story, and he needs their help.
    • Later still, when Leonid persuades Uriel that he must go on without them, as they are dying anyway, Uriel agrees but still feels like it is betrayal. (Uriel got stuck between a rock and a hard place several times in this novel.)
  • In Graham McNeill's Warhammer 40000 novel Storm of Iron, Major Tedeski must leave men on walls that are being bombarded, for fear of an escalade.

 There was every chance he was consigning these men to die, and the guilt of their deaths tasted like ashes in his mouth.

  • Warhammer 40000
    • In Dan Abnett's Horus Heresy novel Horus Rising, Loken feels guilty about stripping away the consolations of their religions from the conquered, who suffer from their conquest. Horus consoles him with the hope that it will lead to more happiness in the long run. Hoo boy...
    • In James Swallow's Blood Angels novel Deus Sanguinius, Solus confesses that firing on the Amareo and their battle brothers had bothered him. Rafen, finding himself needing to fight and kill his battle-brothers, though for different reasons from Solus, doesn't enjoy it either.
    • In James Swallow's novel Faith & Fire, Verity reflects that Vaun has killed and so have she and Miriya. Miriya points out how they feel it, that they have killed.
    • In Rynn's World The Crimson Fists Space Marine Chapter had so many of its members killed during an ork invasion that its leaders issue an order that no space marine is to risk his life to save a civilian since preserving the existence of the Chapter is now the main priority. This does not sit well with the space marines since their duty is to protect imperial citizens. In fact it is the leaders who issued the order who are first to disobey it and risk themselves to save refugees.
      • In the beginning of the book a scout disobeys a direct order and as a result many space marines die. The punishment for this crime is extreme and the Chapter Master hates having to order it but he has to enforce obedience and discipline. What makes it worse is that he freely admits that had the scout succeed in the forbidden action, he would have ended a war and would have been hailed as a hero of the Chapter and his offense quietly forgiven.
  • In Simon Spurrier's Night Lords novel Lord of the Night, Sahaal is found by religious fanatics devoted to the Emperor. He's a traitor Space Marine, but they take him for an Imperial one, and he realizes he can use them, if -- he finds choking out "Ave Imperator" very difficult in indeed.
  • Carpe Jugulum: In Terry Pratchett's Discworld novel, it's revealed that Granny Weatherwax feels this way about nearly every decision she's made. But she has to keep making them, so no-one else has to.
  • Over the last nine years, Emiya Kiritsugu of Fate/Zero has really come to feel that his ideal is a very unpleasant want to uphold. Example: He sets fire to a building to clear some innocent people out before destroying the foundation to kill his enemy near the top. Right after doing so he realizes that he must have gotten soft because normally he would just blow up the building immediately with everyone inside. After nine years of living as a family with his wife and daughter, he's no longer nearly so nonchalant and it's weakened him considerably.
  • In Margaret Ball's Disappearing Act, Maris realizes that she is Becoming the Mask when she thinks that synthesizing a pleasant but addictive substance would be a bad thing to do. (And then finds herself pondering questions about whether depriving truly wretched people of their drugs will only make their lives worse.)
  • In JRR Tolkien's Two Towers, Frodo despises it even as he lures Gollum into the hands of Faramir's men.
  • In Jim Butcher's The Dresden Files novel Summer Knight, Aurora says that she must stop the interchange between the Summer and Winter Courts, and it's horrible, but she didn't set the price.
    • In Death Masks, Harry detests having to flee Nicodemus, leaving Shiro his prisoner.
    • In Grave Peril, killing the ghost of Kravos, even though he knew it was not a real person.
    • In Turn Coat, many regard Morgan as an acceptable sacrifice. After Listens-To-The-Wind insists that Harry and Molly will not be scapegoated as well, Mai says The Merlin will not be pleased; Listen-To-The-Wind says no one should be pleased with the results of this.
    • In Changes Harry... does things. Uses nearly all his contacts, his powers, his options waiting. He calls in his friends, he calls in his friendly enemies, and he's willing to cross the line to save his daughter. He swallows his pride, seeks help from Ivy, Marcone, Uriel even. When not enough, he takes the mantle of Winter Knight, and kills Lloyd State. By the end of it, he even kills Susan to save their daughter. Oh, and lets not forget committing genocide on an entire vampire species. Granted, they were pretty much all monsters (except all those half-bloods that were too old to survive having the other half killed) but it was still the willful murder of hundreds of thousands.
      • And even though he doesn't actually do it, Harry admits that if Mab hadn't made him the Winter Knight, he would have either called on Nicodemus for help in summoning Lasciel's coin or used Kemmler's Darkhallow, which involves killing a lot of people.
    • In Fool Moon, Harry feels bad about not telling Kim, his apprentice and friend, what the three circles of binding do. Still, he comforts himself with the idea that she shouldn't be messing with things like that, and that by not telling her about it he was keeping her out of trouble. Things only get worse when he realizes that because he withheld this information, Kim dies at the hands of a werewolf she was trying to bind with the circles. Ouch.
  • In Wen Spencer's Endless Blue, Mikhail stops an Attempted Rape by shooting the would-be rapist. He knows the Red also killed his foster-brother Turk -- but he is still horrified that he shoot a member of his crew.
  • In the Star Wars Expanded Universe novel Outbound Flight, this is how Commander Thrawn feels about the deaths of the fifty thousand civilian passengers of the titular ship. (Of course, in his later-set appearances, he's much more comfortable with acts of villainy; this is almost his Start of Darkness.) Kinman Doriana isn't exactly happy about it, either, though it's unclear whether he actually cares about the deaths or he simply ends up sympathizing with Thrawn. Likely the latter, since he'd been intending to have everyone on Outbound Flight killed all along, but he says, "I'm content. I wouldn't say I'm happy."

  Thrawn: "No warrior ever has the full depth of control that he would like," he said, his voice calmer but still troubled. "But I wish here that it might have been otherwise."

  • In the Dale Brown novel Shadow Command, American soldiers attack a Dreamland facility and express regret that the EMP device used to disable a CID unit will also fry the operator.
  • All of John Le Carre's spy novels are based on this trope. Both sides of the cold war will do equal dirt, "for England" or "for the Revolution".
  • In John C. Wright's The Phoenix Exultant, Phaethon thinks that turning in Ironjay to get control of his shop is petty and mean -- but he can't afford to let Ironjay take advantage of his nature.
  • Inheritance Cycle: This often happens to Eragon and Roran.
  • "For King and Country" in Barbara Hambly's Blood Maidens; Asher really hates working for the government.
  • In Rick Cook's Limbo System, Toyodo is convinced that they live in a computer simulation and will just get another run if they die. The captain knows this and, feeling ashamed, still asks him to volunteer for a hazardous mission.
  • In the World War II novel, The Young Lions, one of the protagonists, an American soldier stationed in England listens to a sermon, where the priest says that soldiers should treat the entire war as Dirty Business; they shouldn't be proud about the Germans they killed, they should mourn them.
  • In Gene Stratton Porter's Freckles, Black Jack is taken in by Angel's Obfuscating Stupidity and flirtation, and says, "When a man's got a chance of catching a fine girl like that, he ought not be mixed up in any dirty business. I wish to God I was out of this!"
  • In Agatha H and The Clockwork Princess, Wooster insinutes to Agatha that Gil's found another girl. After, he reflects: anything that separates the Wulfenbachs and the Heterodyne heir is to the good of England, so why does he feel like a cad?
  • In Jack Campbell's The Lost Fleet novel Invicible, Geary has to read a letter between two Star-Crossed Lovers, containing an Anguished Declaration of Love. He knows that both the man who sent it and the woman it was sent to knew it would read by others, indeed large parts were clearly aimed at such readers, but he still doesn't like it.
  • In John C. Wright's Count to a Trillion, Menelaus finds driving off blighters this, even though he knows they are a disease-bearing danger.
    • Later, he discovers that the spaceship's crew knew that mining the star would alert aliens to humanity's existence, and they would then come to enslave.


Live Action Television

  • In Star Trek: Deep Space Nine, Sisko has several times done, or tacitly allowed to be done for him, some very Dirty Business.
    • In the end of "In the Pale Moonlight" he sums his actions up himself:

  Sisko: "I lied. I cheated. I bribed a man to cover the crimes of other men. I am an accessory to murder. But the most damning thing about it all: I think I can live with it. And if I had to do it all over again, I would. Garak was right about one thing: A guilty conscience is a small price to pay for the safety of us all. So I will learn to live with it. Because I can live with it. ... I can live with it."

  • In Firefly, Simon Tam twice does this, once when he threatens to let Kaylee bleed to death to force Malcolm to shelter them. And once when he "pays" for the Ariel job with plundered medicine. Simon is usually a fairly nice guy and seldom shows this side of him. But he can be a Well-Intentioned Extremist about River.
    • The second example is actually handwaved by Zoe when they are planning the job, those meds will be replaced in a matter of hours for the rich Core World Hospital, and the people on the Rim could really use some (at a bargain price!).
    • Which, considering how protective Mal is of his crew, and Kaylee in particular, makes it a bit odd that he eventually only winds up Simon by pretending Kaylee died. You'd think, given the way he takes out their old military friend when he threatens Kaylee, that Simon would have got a bullet through the brainpan or thrown out of the airlock the minute he'd stabilised Kaylee - after all, refusing to help an innocent human being even if you are, and know you are, the only one who can save their life, is morally equivalent to, say, refusing to fix a rickety stairway that you know will be in heavy use. You're still culpable for the death, even if you didn't directly cause it. Depending on your view of negative responsibility, anyway, but let's not get into that here...
    • It seems like Mal was ready to do kill him on principle when Simon refused to treat Kaylee at first, but Inara got him to prioritize. After it was revealed that Simon was doing all this to protect his sister, Mal seemed to recognized that same protective instinct in him and respect Simon's remorse for his threat.
  • In the series finale of Angel, when Lorne kills Lindsey. Just before he does it, a visibly remorseful Lorne says that working for Angel has become "unsavory".
  • The first season finale of Supernatural has the first instance of the Winchesters being able to kill a demon - if they're willing to ice the innocent, possessed human too.

 Dean: You know that guy I shot? There was a person in there.

Sam: You didn't have a choice, Dean.

Dean: Yeah, I know, that's not what bothers me.

Sam: Then what does?

Dean: Killing that guy, killing Meg - I didn't hesitate, I didn't even flinch. For you or Dad, the things I'm willing to do or kill, it scares me sometimes.

    • In seasons four and five, every time Sam drinks demon blood to fuel his powers he looks at it this way.
  • This is also a common theme in Star Trek: Voyager, with Janeway, Tuvok and Chakotay often taking different stances as to what is acceptable.
  • Eliot Spencer of Leverage is the team's "hitter" and is the only one on the team to physically hurt people on a regular basis. Even if nearly everyone he takes down is asking for it, and he doesn't seem to have a problem with doing what has to be done, he's the only one on a team of career-criminals-turned-Robin-Hoods who describes himself as a bad guy (and not in a way that suggests he's proud of it either).
    • His dialogue in the Fight Ring episode to Sophie and the Gone Fishing Job to Hardison before they return to the militia camp illustrates that he has no illusions about the nature of his work, but he also knows that he is particularly suited to it and that it's sometimes entirely necessary, so he shoulders the responsibility. He takes the pain so others don't have to, because he is the one who CAN take it.
    • It is revealed that in the past Eliot commited acts for which there is no excuse or justification and it is the guilt over this that drives him to do what he does.
  • Cameron of The Sarah Connor Chronicles is perfectly willing and able to do horrible and violent things to people. She isn't inherently cruel, but she - literally - has a very cold and mechanical logic when it comes to dealing with threats, and will often kill people who the Connors refuse to.
  • The page quote comes from an episode of Burn Notice in which Michael helps a bad guy blow up his even-worse-guy boss in order to save a neighborhood from her gang.
  • British spy series Callan has a protagonist who hates his job and his boss for all the filth they make him do. Why he doesn't quit is doubtful - partly blackmail, partly a belief that the Soviets are slightly worse.
  • In Merlin, the titular wizard considers his role in helping Uther seduce Igraine to be Dirty Business.
  • In Carnivale, Ben killing Lodz falls into this. Samson also does a number of unethical things, but rarely expresses remorse for them.
  • Breaking Bad has Walt killing Krazy 8, a drug dealer that otherwise would have killed him and his famliy. In the season 3 finale, Jesse kills Gale, a replacement cook that Gus had planned to use instead of Walt and Jesse.
  • In the 2008 series Survivors, Tom is used as the go-to man whenever the group realizes that someone needs to be killed, whether out of mercy or otherwise. Despite the fact that it takes a toll on him, and he has been trying in his own way to escape his violent past, he goes through with it anyways because it needs to be done.

Newspaper Comics


Tabletop Games

  • Dungeons and Dragons has a supplement featuring the Grey Guard prestige class, which was a disillusioned paladin with a loosened code of conduct, allowing him/her to do some very morally questionable things out of necessity.
  • Several people in Exalted have had to do terrible things for greater goods (up to and including saving the whole of Creation) while still feeling incredible guilt over it. The most prominent examples are Chejop Kejak (orchestrated the Usurpation and the Wyld Hunt) and the Scarlet Empress (followed up on saving Creation from a raksha invasion by establishing herself as the supreme and unquestionable ruler of the oppressive, albeit stable and secure, Realm).
    • While Chejop Kejak feels a great deal of (rationalized) guilt over his actions, we never see any indication that the Scarlet Empress feels anything other than a sense of accomplishment and selfish contentment from hers.

Theater

  • In Philoctetes, the generally honest Neoptolemus must trick Philoctetes on Odysseus' behalf to go with them to Troy in order that the Greeks could finally win the war. Especially given how much Philoctetes has suffered at the hands of Odysseus and some of the other Greeks, this doesn't sit very well with Neoptolemus.
  • This is much of Creon's rationale in Jean Anouilh's Antigone. He is challenged at the end with the question "Why? Why does dirty work need to be done?"


Video Games

  • Halo: Cortana, in the final Cut Scene, asserts I Did What I Had to Do, though it's clear from her tone of voice that she's trying to convince herself and the Master Chief, not stating her actual feelings.
  • Faldio from Valkyria Chronicles justifies his shooting of Alicia to activate her Valkyria powers as needed to save Gallia. He felt guilty after he had a chance to think about his actions which led to his his Heroic Sacrifice at the Marmota.
  • Axel, from Kingdom Hearts, eventually moves into this territory. In Chain of Memories, he's mostly a heartless killer. Most of his victims are traitors, being punished for their actions. But Vexen and Zexion were innocent, killed apparently on a whim. 358/2 Days gives a reason for this -- part of a Xanatos Gambit. But as his friendship with Roxas develops, he starts becoming a little ashamed of everything he's done. In the end, he actually laments that he "always gets the dirty work." Right before accepting another assassination job, purposefully trying to invoke I Did What I Had to Do for the sake of his own conscience.
  • God of War: Kratos has no choice but to push a caged soldier up an incline to burn him alive as a Human Sacrifice. As he does so, the man begs for his life. Kratos, who has slaughtered, and will slaughter, countless people, looks outright disgusted before he begins. "The Gods demand sacrifice... from all of us." Oh, and it's not a cutscene. The player has to listen to the man's screams while pulling him up the hill themselves. Unfortunately lost in non-American versions, where the cage holds a generic zombie enemy.
  • Grovyle in Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Time/Darkness/Sky is willing to kill (and almost does at one point) to prevent the planet's paralysis, but has no malice against his targets, even once saying "Forgive me" before attacking.
  • Mordin Solus of Mass Effect 2 feels this way about upgrading the Genophage in that while he still believes it to ultimately be the best option, he's also absolutely guilt-ridden by it due to having an incredibly high set of personal morals.
    • The right mix of Renegade actions and Paragon dialogue will make Shepard feel this way too. Especially if you chose the Ruthless background. At one point in the sequel, Shepard is asked about Virmire. Paragon Shepard's response is angry.

 Shepard: I left a friend to die that day and I didn't do it casually.

  • Carl Johnson in Grand Theft Auto San Andreas has to do a lot of this at various points in the game, as does Niko Bellic in Grand Theft Auto IV.
  • Yuri from Tales of Vesperia gets a chunk of his fan love due to his unabashed nature toward punishing the unjust through any means necessary. Even if he has to has to go vigilante and operate outside the law on their ass, with the best part being he's well aware he's doing bad things for good reasons. At one point he even counters a pathetic final plea for help from an equally pathetic bad guy, stating a hero would not do this, by stating he's no hero.
  • In Baldur's Gate 2 you are caught up in a power struggle between the local cartel of thieves/assassins who have a freaking torture chamber in their basement and a guild of bloodthirsty vampires who follow the sister of the Big Bad who is arguably more evil than he is. Siding with either one forces you to support a gang of ruthless criminals or monsters. There's no way to avoid this since you need the help of one of these groups to pursue the Big Bad.
  • In Metal Gear Solid 3 Snake Eater Naked Snake is sent to kill his mentor and the Cobra unit. Needless to say that he is reluctant to do so. Then it turns into a massive subversion - turns out Snake had been sent to kill the Boss because it was politically convenient, which is what drives Snake to become Big Boss.

Web Comics

  • Juathuur: Meidar is the queen of this trope. Juar has his moments too.
  • Many Wapsi Square characters consider the plan to save the world to fall under this category. Brandi doesn't like it, nor does Shelly.
  • In Girl Genius, Barry was crying when he put the locket on Agatha (in a flashback). She needs it to protect her, but it will damp her down and make her unhappy.


Western Animation

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